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Boy who cried wolf? Alarmism is never appropriate, and the whole global warming thing has gotten so attached to politics that it's really just something else to cause a divide. There are going to be a few people who pollute less, and a few who go out and take their hummers for a ride just to spite the "hippies." I don't think the current approach to global warming is helping anything at all.

Honestly, I believe that we have the capability to serious damage the environment if we keep going the way we are, and I believe it is happening to an extent, but I sincerely doubt that civilization is going to die next month. People just need to take steps to change their ways. It doesn't take drastic life changes to reduce your environmental impact. My parents drive a hybrid and recycle, and I drive a very small car that gets good mileage. It's not a lot, but it certainly makes a difference and we feel good about ourselves at the end of the day.

Well actually that is what I thought to, but after researching information for my paper, I found that not to be true, Arctic has been melting 7% since 1980, but Antarctica is actually growing 45% since 1980, unlike what you hear all the time from the media, below is a link, but you can find the information on other sites as well. It is these very ideas that make me question global warming.http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/comment.php?comment.news.109



As for only a good thing for the planet, I won't argue that it wouldn't be a good thing for our planet, but it may not be in the best interest for humanity. We may be wasting valuable money and time on something that could be insignificant, when we could be focused on other more important ideas. Plus our evidence and scientific evidence and data backing global warming is scratchy at best as Avwolf described. As stated by Ashpool this green movement has only become one more political dividing line between people, slowing and halting political decisions and movements that otherwise could possible be swifter. But again that is just an idea, but these are the reasons why I think we need to do further research and collect better data on the subject matter to see if global warming is a problem and if so what can we do to stop it. This is why I'm now indecisive on the subject matter.

Generally whats good for the economy does not exactly equal whats good for humanity. It depends on what you beleive the ultimate goal of people are. Also, just becuase it creates a big political divide, does not mean it is a bad thing. Most of the best ideas, are evolved out of conflict of some kind. And political divides like this, forces people to actually try and change something in the world. If a party knew they could get into office every year without changing anything, then why would they try? Conflict is the only driving motivation in politics, and if it is the motivation to get things changed in politics it could be said that conflict would be the only driving force between changing policies of countries. Every one having the same opinion would be a terrible thing, that goes against the general idea of democracy. Or... something...

Also... Yes I think there needs to be a bit more research in the subject.

Yeah, I see where your coming from, but again is this the conflict we want driving our political views or should it be something that is more concrete and frankly more important when we still know so little about global warming. But again depending on how this situation is handled it could be good or bad for our political system, so we will just have to wait and see how things turn out. Cross your fingers and hope for the best.

Look at it this way, we'll probably already be dead by the time the human race goes extinct.

I hate to say it, but attitudes like that is what got the world to the state it's in today.

The problem with the Global Warming debate is that it's all about people quibbling over details. Can anyone actually make an intelligent argument that trying to limit the use of non-renewable natural resources, trying to limit pollution, and pursuing alternate energy sources would be detrimental to the planet and the human race?

Well, and the quibbling comes down to groups of people who would fight over anything. Take the US, for instance. You have our god-awful bipartisan system, where people are raised to cheer for their party almost like they would a sports team. If you're a Bears fan, you're a Bears fan, no matter how much they suck. Similarly, people are democrats and republicans with the same attitude. The other side is the enemy.

So you have, traditionally, the liberals (who are more associated with the democrats), who are pushing for conservation. Well, that means spending money. What makes conservatives mad? Liberals spending tax money. So you get this fighting where no one is really fighting about, "Would this hurt? Not really, no," you get this fighting between two groups who just hate each other and want to see the other one's plans fail.

It isn't even about global warming anymore. I've listened to conservatives blame liberals for making the whole thing up so that they can fritter away tax dollars so they can't go to things like the military. And I've heard liberals blame conservatives for not caring at all about the earth or people and actively making the problem worse to prove a point. >.<